Longtime friends, Stephen Kellogg and Benj Gershman talk through the landscape of touring, recording, intra-band relationships, the role family takes while balancing a career, shared emotional challenges, and an appreciation for the art of performance. SK, a veteran artist, writer and most recently a comedian, divulges his personal thoughts on what it takes to give everything to your craft amidst the tradeoffs between this and the sacrifices involved. A loving husband and father, Stephen shares his perspective of having made it through the gauntlet of a lengthy career in the entertainment industry, with more ahead, while acknowledging gratitude for still getting to play the game. The episode is a personal look at both the rational and emotional aspects involved in sustaining a career within the entertainment industry, from the artist’s point of view.